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I found this thread very helpful when trying to figure out what to pay for our new Forester, so here is our contribution for our purchase in FL Forester 2.5x Limited w/protection group 3 and pop eqpt group 5B MSRP $27,859 Invoice $25,955 Paid $25,755 Add non-negotiable dealer "prep fee" of $499 (common among dealers here) and in reality we ended up paying $26,255, $300 over invoice We could've gotten a better deal had we not traded in a vehicle, but that is where we ended up after some haggling. If you're not trading in, my recommendation would be to factor in dealer fee and shoot for invoice as the bottom line.
That is a very good price, in my opinion. I bought my 2010 Forester XT Premium package back in June in Pensacola, FL after an extensive search up to 1000 miles driving radius for the turbo version (need that extra power for my frequent trips to high altitude drives in Colorado and High Sierras). Unfortunately, there were not that many turbos around. Actually, I only found one and even that was a dealer-traded car. Had to take it with what was on it - factory installed options. Just got some extras such as mud flaps, rubber floor mats and cargo tray. What I miss (that I had on my 2005 previously owned Forester) are the heated outside rear view mirrors. I am now trying to figure out, if my Forester is pre-wired for that option and if I could just plug in heated mirrors (glass) along with control switch on the dash board. I have somehow a vague ongoing conversation with SOA tech. support about this issue. They are not very helpful when somebody wants to add stuff to cars because they consider that modification and that is normally done by dealers. I like to do it myself as I have done it on my 2005 Forester in the past. I've paid 500 over invoice at that time.
WOW - good information indeed... I didn't even know that such service exists.... but then again I've only lived in Calif. (35 years) NY (5 years) and FL (7 years). They must be buying that oil in barrels indeed and have very small profit margins unless, of course, they always find someting else wrong with your car and then they charge you extra for it...
Assuming you are referring to Subaru, in your area/climate, I woudl stick with what Subaru recommends; i.e. 5W30 (Mobil 1) oil at recommended intervals indicated in your owners manual, both for turbo and non-turbo models - but I would go with synthetic .... Subaru does not really specifies if regular or synthetic (I think). I put about 10K per year in hot, humid FL climate so I have been using a thicker viscosity 10W40 or even 20W40 in summer and switch back to 5W30 in winter (we do get some freezing temps here sometimes).
I think I have also seen this VW oil (by Mobil - Belgium) at PepBoys and currently they have a "special" on it - buy 3 or 4 and get 1 liter free. It's Mobil 1 but when you peel off the top label it shows Mobil EU/Belgium. I use heavier viscosity Mobil 1 in my Forester XT (from WalMart) because of constant short drives and high temps here in FL. I always order Subaru OEM filter (and any other parts) from "subarupartsforyou.com" they are located in CT, I think. They always have wholesale prices on all parts that they sell plus excellent, pompt and quick UPS deliveries.
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