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Hi Blastphemy, My take on this is just a tad different. Using your numbers and not factoring loyalty, tax, down payments, MSD's (all for the sake of simplicity) I come up with: Total cost of a 24 month lease = $27434.50 Total cost of a 36 month lease = $31,229.90 So you can then drive your slightly "flawed" M56 in the 3rd year for $3,795.40 or $316.28 monthly. If you decide to trade it will cost you: Residual $35,907.70 plus Remaining payments $10409.97 Less remaining amortized interest ~ $760 for a total of $45557 (Adjusted Lease Balance) The big if is the residual value, but at 59% or $39232.05 this leaves you with a balance of $6,324.95 plus the new car payment. I just early teminated a lease and made a few K, but I was fortunate. This usually does not happen. I don't anticipate this good fortune on my new M.
Hi Car_man, could you please post the current rates for the M56 as well. Of particular interest to me are the rates on the M56X (Northeast if it makes a difference) 36/39 for 10 & 12K. Thanks in advance.
Now I have a question for you. Take the G, which is Infiniti's best seller and assume you get many sales on this model from Zag. They state you can get $5k off an M56, a car you can currently get a premium on. You have a relationship with Zag and they state this is the right price from your dealership. You don't want to lose the sales leads. Do you honor the price or do you not? Zag states they want feedback if you do not with "assumed" repercussions. They state all of their dealers subscribe to this new method. Can't argue with their methodology/reasoning but it just isn't the way the system typically works today in a non-Saturn world. On another note, does the infiniti lease rate specials advertised on their website apply to all models or just the particular build up as stated? Or, what can we extrapolate from these specials? Thanks
Pedro45, the dealers are in the business of making money not simply turning inventory over. If they dont make money they cannot support their customers. My suggestion that a deal be fair for all parties is not the same thing as saying you should pay thousands more. You and everyone else should pay exactly no more than you are willing to pay and the dealer will except, or move on. My message came after someone stating $3K under invoice pricing was not going to happen. If it does, well then this model has tanked and will be a loss leader for the dealer. The real point of my reply regarded the USAA, Zag, True Car pricing. I read ScottWs messages and had no problem with them. I found his post intriguing. I went to the True Car, USAA, Zag site and confirmed exactly what he stated. However, this just seemed too good to be true. So I began plugging in other car models and came to the conclusion that their pricing on the M56 was unrealistic. Their computer generated pricing defaults to very optimistic when there are insufficient sales data, not to mention inventory. I can configure whatever I want on their site but since the model I just configured doesnt even exist I cant buy it anyway.
I read this message a while back as well and checked out the pricing. The big caveat is that it has to be an in stock vehicle. This might work well for the 37 with many other considerations. Infiniti will adjust the inventory early on to keep the pricing higher. They will succomb at some point. At last check USAA had information on a total of 6 sales on the 56, so their pricing is purely speculative. I am also not sure if they factor in a discount on the new car commensurate with an equal discount on the trade. Just don'tjknow. I've already ordered mine so it no longer matters to me. Time of the day, month, year will mostly determine how you might steal this car. In the end I want the dealer to make a profit and have a working relationship should something go wrong. That's just me. So somewhere in between, to me is the ideal situation.
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