Nevada Audi Car Dealers

Loggie/Car Man So the dealer in Sacramento came back with the following on an A4 2.0T Quattro, 6spd manual, w/ convenience pkg, bose stereo, i-pod, sport suspension. 36 month/10,000k per year lease. Net cap. $34,352 Adj. cap. $33,777 MF .00002 (they came down from the .00092) No $ down except about $351 in DMV fees (which I'd have to pay anyway) Monthly payment incl. NV tax of 7.375 is $434.00 (this is without audi care, which I told them I don't want). They came down on the mf, but not on the adj. cap - do you think this is a good deal? Or do you see any more room for negotiation? Thanks!

I'm in Reno, NV, but am dealing with an Audi dealership in Sacramento. Here are the details: Audi A4 2.0T Quattro 6 spd. Man., Special Edition w/ Bose, I-pod interface, sport suspension (not sport pkg, just susp. only). Red exterior, beige interior. MSRP: $35,002 Adj. Cap: $33,777 (they told me invoice was $33,500) Residual: $19,827 (55%) Depreciation: $15,174.50 Money Factor: .00092 No $ down. 36 mo. lease/12,000k. Monthly payment incl. tax is $508.53. This payment seems high to me considering the other posts I've read where people are getting payments in the low $400's or even sub-$400.00 Any ideas re: what I can do to negotiate a better deal. (they are also telling me I only have until July 7th and then the lease special will be over)... Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

I bought a 2008 A3 a little more than a week ago. I thought I would detail some of my buying experiences, since it may help some people (several of these postings helped me). Hmm: where to start. I live in San Francisco, CA, and parking is an issue. These fit in quite a few places, and I have begun to see a lot of them around. It also seems to have enough power to enjoy driving (I came from a Lexus ES300, so many, many cars including the 911 that was right next to my A3 would have provided a better driving experience--not that my Lexus did not do exactly what I wanted it to do). I got the 2.0, and may think about having it chipped at some point. But I would not like getting worse gas mileage, and it has enough pickup (or my foot has enough lead in it) that I have spun the tires at least three times since picking it up. I am not a fan of the negotiation--I simply am willing to pay or not. I did a lot of research and test driving before deciding on this car (choices were the A3, the new Smart Fortwo, and Lexus IS250--more on this later). I knew which options I wanted, and in what order. There are three dealerships in a reasonable area, and they all were willing to go to $500 over invoice without any discussion. By the way, the dealer I eventually bought from swears that Edmund's invoice numbers are a little off--but whatever. I was prepared to hear that, and it may even be true. Since I did not want to beat around the bush, I simply said that if you met Carsdirect price with the options I wanted, I would buy it from you today. I think that wound up being something like $400 over invoice. 2008 Audio A3 *Deep Sea Pearl *Auto Trans *Convenience *Premium *Heated Seats *Ipod *Bluetooth *Open Sky *Manual Rear Sunshades *Destination charge *Some kind of Bay Area ad charge bull-crap Pretty much what I wanted, but could not find one with Rear Side Airbags without getting one with Nav--which I definitely did not want (the Nav system in this car sucks, especially compared to the Lexus and considering what you pay for it). All totaled without taxes and plates, it came to $31,258, I think. Not great and not horrible, I think. But all three dealers were going to be within a couple hundred dollars, I think, so I went with one that was closest in location. Like I mentioned, it drives well. In some ways, the interior of my old Lexus is better (very quiet, and this new car definitely has some noise), and the new Lexus IS250 blows the interior away (and its electronic toys are much better, in my opinion). Still, the A3 has three advantages: 1) it is about a foot shorter (this matters in SF, trust me); 2) it is about a second quicker from 0-60; of course I could have gotten the IS350, but its price was much more and the gas mileage was worse; the IS250 and A3 have very similar gas consumption stats; and 3) the IS250 is several thousand dollars more expensive. I cannot say this mattered to me a great deal, since I keep my cars a long time, and since I expect any resale value on the Lexus would have been greater than on the Audi; but it is more expensive. It is nearer to the A4 in price and features; and in some ways on the A3, you can tell. No option for the Quattro except with the bigger engine--at which point, why (except for size) not get the A4? Also, no power front passenger seat. Also, the leather in the A3 is not as nice as in the IS. The other car I was looking at was the new Fortwo that will be release early next year. I test drove it, and liked it. Parking would be a dream, and they are not going to be that expensive (less than $20,000 fully pimped). But it is an anemic car--0-60 in something like 15 seconds. Of course gas mileage would have been great. I did consider it, but I considered that I would be commuting out of the City at least some--and chose the A3. I think my neighbor is going to get the Fortwo, so mabye I will get some experience with it after all. So, after a week, it seems an OK car. I got a little pissed on day six because I found that the rear bumpber had been love-tapped (happens all the time here, and after fuming for a day, you realize it was going to happen sooner or later--probably much sooner). I am having to get use to the reduced length of the car. I can get in to many more spaces, but I am still cautious--I look out over the hood, and think I am an inch away from something. Then I get out to look, and realize I am two feet away. :) It will come to me. It is similar to the back, since I have no trunk. I am a little wary of Audi/VW reputation for build. My Lexus was one of those bullet proof ones--I really only sold it because it was getting a long in the tooth at 180,000 miles and I was hungering for new toys like the ability to play mp3 cds and use bluetooth through the speakers. But after three years of production, the A3 seems to be holding up OK. I did not get the extended warranty, though they said I have a year to decide that. Since I plan on keeping it for a while (8-10 years, I hope), I may try to get an extended warranty once I pass the mileage limit from a third party. One thing I am not going to like is having to take it to the Audi dealership for service. You can reset the oil service warning yourself, but not the 15k maintenance alert, I guess. Lexus or Audi--I hate getting robbed by the dealer. Maybe any VW dealer could do it; or maybe I can find an independent garage to do the work and reset it. I guess they had offered 4 years of free maintenace in previous years, but not any more. Not sure if that is a good sign or bad (keeping the price down is nice). Well, I think that is about it. My girl likes the heated seats and dual climate zone controls (I am just joining the ranks of new car features, after all). I think the BT is fine. I am planning on getting a Garmin NV unit (or maybe even one that gets put in to the dash, although I think that would probably affect the menu and BT functions), but not yet sure which one. Any recommendations are welcome.

I currently have a 15k/36 month lease negotiated for a Q7 4.2 Premium with an MRSP of $60,620. Cap Cost $58,852 with a residual of $31,120. The money factor is 0.00182. Does this seem like a good deal?