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Acura TL Lease Questions
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Re: 2011/2012 TL SH-AWD in MD/DC/VA [smiton]
Hi smiton. Acura's May buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2011 TL AWD Tech with 15,000 miles per year are .00190 and 52%, respectively for consumers who qualify for its top credit tier. The numbers for an otherwise identical lease of a 2012 model are .00190 and 60%. Car_man Host Prices Paid: Buying & Leasing Experiences Forum
Acura TL Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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2012 Acura TL Base Pricing
Hi, I am in the market to purchase a base 2012 Acura TL and would like to hear what folks have paid lately? Any info appreciated Thanks
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Re: 2012 Acura TL w/Tech - OTD price in S. CA [sieh]
That's a good price right now. Obviously, as time goes by they will start offering incentives and make pricing more competitive. You are allowed on this forum to list the dealership that provided the quote.
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Re: 2012 Acura TL w/Tech - OTD price in S. CA [billyperks2]
I sometimes wonder if it would be a good strategy to insinuate during negotiations that you may be interested in some of these huge margin add-ons to possibly get a better price on the car and then just flatly refuse any of them during the paperwork stage. I usually tell ahead of time not to even bother with that crap but I think the next time I may just drop some ... Read More
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Re: 2012 Acura TL w/Tech - OTD price in S. CA [sieh]
Life time Paint protection Life time Ding protection Life time leather proctection And list goes on when they corner you in that back room.
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2012 Acura TL w/Tech - OTD price in S. CA
I have received the dealer's quote for (2012 - Acura TL w/Technology Package - 4dr car, 3.5L, V6, FWD, 6-speed Automatic). Selling Price: $37,212/Doc Fee: $55/License Fee: $526.75/Tax(9.75%): $3,260.86. Total Amount Due on Delivery: $41,054.61 Is this the best offer? Is anything else missing from this offer? I would very appreciate for any opinions. Thanks,
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Re: 2012 Acura with Tech Package [billyperks2]
Check out Edmund's TMV for the 2012 TL Base w/Tech. $39,923.
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2012 Acura with Tech Package
Looks like i am the first in forum to buy 2012 TL. TL+Tech+Tint+protection costed me $40K OTD price. Extremely pleased with Car and dealership in FL and i know so early i couldn't get a better deal on 2012 TL
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2012 Acura with Tech Package
Anybody bought new 2012 with Tech - dealer in florida is quoting very close to MSRP. I am planning to buy in next 2-3 days. Any experience buying 2012 would help. Financing deals are going on at 1.9 for new TLs
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2012 Acura TL Tech
Is any delear offers 2012 TL tech pack same as 2011 ?
Acura TL Lease Questions
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Re: 2012 TL Numbers [rleicht]
I'd be happy to rleicht. Acura's current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2012 TL Tech with 15,000 miles per year are .00189 and 60%, respectively for consumers who qualify for its top aka "Super Preferred" credit tier. Car_man Host Prices Paid: Buying & Leasing Experiences Forum
Acura TL Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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2011 Acura TL with Tech and without
Chicago dealer offered 2011 TL with Tech package for $33,677. Vegas dealer offered 2011 TL base for $31,200. In both cases everything but TTL. The 2011's seem to be selling fairly quickly with the 2012's coming in. Not sure how long the deals will last.
Acura TL Lease Questions
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2011 TL SH-AWD Base
Leased a 2011 SH-AWD in NJ this week. Happy with the deal, comes out about right on lease calculator, benefited from Acura loyalty program and the fact that they delivered the 2012 to the dealers last week. MSRP 39715 Sales Price 34983 (about 2k under invoice) Residual 57% They said AWD is 2% lower than FWD which is 59% MF 2.184 Tax 7% 12k 36 month $428 per month Zero out ... Read More
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2012 TL Numbers
Hi Carman, Can you post the residual and money factor for a 2012 TL Tech, 36 mo, 15k miles? There seems to be a big difference (as expected) between the lease deal on the acura website for the 2011 and 2012 model. I'm trying to figure out where the difference lies...between residual or money factor, etc. Thanks- much appreciated!
Freshened 2012 TL Will Be Introduced At Chicago Auto Show On 2/9.
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Re: 2012 TL Refresh ? ? Come on! [gbosil]
I hear you man, I feel the same way. I don't see myself in another Acura any time soon and most likely will be shopping BMW, Infiniti, and Audi the next time around. I really like Audi's vehicles but the reliability issues are still issue, granted better then they were, but still the worse of the German 3. I've been to Audi dealerships myself and never found their service any better ... Read More
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Re: 2012 TL Refresh ? ? Come on! [smarty666]
Smarty.. I never thought I would see the day when I would jump ship from Acura. I love them! I am so damn dissapointed in their direction "Performance Wise." Bring back the "S" Line or Performance Line of cars damit! People like myself have the $$ to buy! I love my 2007 TL Type S and will hold onto it until it dies! It has provided me with 70K+ miles of ... Read More
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2012 Acura TL Release Date - March!!!
I went to the Chicago Auto Show today. I have owned 2 prior generation Acura TL's, the 1999 and most recently the 2005. I am tall 6'4" and have always appreciated the TL's front leg room, cockpit layout, technology integration, above average performance (although this could be improved) & value compared to the European sedans in it's class. I am due for a new car in the next few months and ... Read More
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Re: 2012 TL Refresh ? ? Come on! [billyperks2]
Well for one I am trading my 2010 TSX and keeping my TLS. Love my TLS and get constant compliments. The TSX w/V6 is a joke in my driving opinion. Handles like crap. Gas mileage sux too. I've owned it for over a year now and really unhappy with the fit and finish of the car. Paint is paper thin and is chipping all over the front from HWY driving. Acura ... Read More
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2012 TL Refresh ? ? Come on!
I currently own a 2007 TLS and 2010 TSX so therefore dedicated to the Acura Brand. Lately I have been very dissapointed with Acura. Their design direction is somewhat misguided and their lineup lacking a performance line up. Their service sucks also. I've noticed a steep decline in lately. The 2012 TL in my mind is no different than the 2009-2011 TL period + or - a few add ons. It's ... Read More
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Re: Freshened 2012 TL Will Be Introduced At Chicago Auto Show On 2/9. [hpmctorque]
From the pictures on the Acura website, I have no regrets about the one I have. All they did was inserted the RL grill and made some cosmectic changes. The only regret is not having the blind spot warning-love that feature. Maybe they will be able to swap out my mirrors-I will inquire in the fall.
Acura TL Lease Questions
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Re: 2011 TL AWD w/ Tech leased in NJ [qali]
Doesn't look all that different. http://www.roadandtrack.com/future-cars/spy-photos/spied!-2012-acura-tl/gallery
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Re: 2010 TL tech lease in NH... [bigdogues]
Is the new body coming out in 2012? That seems pretty early. Isn't the 2011 only the 3rd year for this body (I could be wrong). Either way I wouldn't really trust the dealers. Getting out of your lease early, even if you are getting a new Acura, will probably be costly. If you do go over your miles you will need to pay for half of the overage (assuming you ... Read More
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2010 TL tech lease in NH...
Greetings, I was offered to move up from my 2008 TL lease two months early into a 2010 complete with tech and ugly beak. No money out of pocket and $454 a month for 12,000 miles or $475 for 15,000. My last lease was for 18,000/year which I do actually drive but I was talked into going for lower miles to drop my monthly payment and because I was also told ... Read More
Entry Level Luxury Performance Sedans
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Re: spy shots of 2012 TL [ivan_99]
Um,yeah. That was the point - my statement was an opinion and calling opinions "facts" is dumb. Reread my post. I wrote, "or as you would say..." On the point that you know people who do buy for resale, I thought that was just Acura drivers. ;) Seriously, I would buy a minivan for that but not a sport sedan and that is what I was referring to.
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2011 a stale year for this category??
by my count 2011 is a year that brings nothing really new.. the new S60 "naughty volvo" kind of cool i guess but its not going to win in performance. Lexus IS has new commercials that talk about its new performance package but its the same car... The G changed the front end a bit for 2010, but nothing has really changed-- i guess the new performance line is kind of ... Read More
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Re: spy shots of 2012 TL [edwardsf]
"You keep raging on about something but aren't willing to research or can't prove it but just keep repeating it anyway" You just don't get it, I did provide the three factors making up the prestige decision in some of BMW and MB purchases so you of course missed that as usual. ALG residual value awards, CR LONG TERM reliability chart data (I'm talking for the previous model years, not the ... Read More
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Re: spy shots of 2012 TL [gbosil]
""I just see all those black and red dots." I don't think its a coloring book. If you actually scrutinize all those round red and black dot thingies - which sounds like it may be a bit too much trouble for you - you will find that the 328 and 528 have better than average ratings. As people have pointed out, even the more troublesome 335/535s have few well below average ... Read More
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Re: spy shots of 2012 TL [jimbres]
Huh... interesting... got my 2010 Consumer Reports Car Buying guide in front of me right now.... see an awful lot of BLACK dots for BMWs.... hummmm lookin' over at the Acura side wow to my surprise an awful lot of reds! CR Best Buys and Recommended TL, TSX, MDX . .. . etc...........................
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Re: spy shots of 2012 TL [gbosil]
The Germans still have many ELECTRICAL problems to sort out. Read consumer reports talk to people who own them. I have an '01 BMW 330i that I bought in June of that year - more than 9 years ago - & I've had exactly zero electrical problems to date. Also, I'm looking at the 2010 Consumer Reports auto issue as I write this. (I've subscribed to CR for over 30 years, ... Read More
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Re: spy shots of 2012 TL [fedlawman]
The I4 in the TSX is a loud obnoxious engine which gets piss pour mpg for an engine its size and displacement when there are I4s coming out now with the same and even better gas mileage then the TSX I4 and ones that don't sound like a V8 engine at idle; Acura really needs to begin working on their I4 engines because they are behind in their game compared to ... Read More
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Re: spy shots of 2012 TL [gbosil]
There may be Acura's in Japan but they weren't sold there. To date, Honda has yet to market the Acura brand in Japan, that said, they have expanded the brand to include Mexico, Hong Kong, and China. As for BMWs and Mercedes-Benzs being "mass-produced", so? What's your point? All cars with the exception of a few exotics are "mass-produced"; the difference is that some companies imbue their cars with better design ... Read More
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Re: spy shots of 2012 TL [shipo]
Listen. you are wrong. there are Acuras in Japan I was just there in Tokyo and saw quite a few running around. Sorry to strike a nerve... not here to start any war just making my point heard under "free speeech and my opinon." BMWs and Mercedes are nothing but mass produced cars... period. :)
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Re: spy shots of 2012 TL [gbosil]
Dude, there ARE NO ACURAs in Japan. Why? Because Acura is exclusive to North America. That said, a number of years ago I rode in a "Honda Legend" taxi in Osaka, a car that was identical to the Acura Legend of its day here in the U.S. As for calling folks "Fools", if you want a flame war, keep it up. Personally I wouldn't be caught dead in a TL-SHAWD, its ... Read More
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Re: spy shots of 2012 TL [shipo]
Let me re-phrase... what I ment was... In Japan "Acuras" are not taxies and Toyotas are ;) Basically there used to be a prestige about BMW and Mercedes years ago only a select few individuals "accomplished" individuals could afford one... today they are a dime a dozen and mass produced. I see them everywhere. If you want to spend 17K more on a 528i vs the TL-SHAWD just to say " ... Read More
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Re: spy shots of 2012 TL [shipo]
That Europe has really nice taxis, and people there like to get where they're going... FAST. :) (it shouldn't be surprising considering those are European manufacturers, and Acura isn't.)
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Re: spy shots of 2012 TL [smarty666]
BMWs and Mercedes are "TAXIES" in Europe. I rest my case. :P I don't see any Acura Taxies running around here in the states!
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Re: spy shots of 2012 TL [smarty666]
"That was what I was talking about, similarly equipped vehicles, same options, equipment, features, engine sizes, etc and it is possible to build a German and Japanese vehicle pretty similarly with equipment, the only difference is going to be the total price on the window." My point is that you cannot get them "similarly equipped." You cannot get an Acura or Infinity with an in-line 6 engine. The VQ is a ... Read More
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Re: spy shots of 2012 TL [smarty666]
I have only been reviewing this thread for a short time but I find this statement interesting... "Those 3 FACTS indicate that, SIMILARLY EQUIPPED Japanese vs German luxury vehicles are giving the Japanese a better financial decision to get" If you are only looking dollars and cents, then a Honda provides what your acura does at a lower price This whole line of bantering is silly any way - the best ... Read More
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Re: spy shots of 2012 TL [smarty666]
I asked you for data to support your long series of posts adamently claiming that a big reason people buy German cars is for prestige. You then supplied the data for headroom. Huh? Then I refute your data by stating that manufacturer space spec discrepancies are well known and you sound like I took your candy away. Please try reading the actual posts and responding to the actual text of the ... Read More
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Re: spy shots of 2012 TL [sweendogy]
I find it laughable that when I do post actual facts and stats that do not support inaccurate claims of the 3-Series superiority in CERTAIN areas, like mpg for instance, excuses are used as to why those competitor models get either better or the same fuel mpg then the 3-Series or puts them down regardless; the 3-Series is not the best fuel economy vehicle in its class and just about matches ... Read More
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Re: spy shots of 2012 TL [murphydog]
while that is true, Nissan, Hyundai, Honda, etc are not luxury companies so its puzzling why they would be brought up here; any luxury company in this country is going to have more prestige or what ever you want to call it from the mainstream parent company. I like the Acura I have, but nothing really from their current product line. That is not new news and not the first time ... Read More
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Re: spy shots of 2012 TL [smarty666]
every thing you just described here also related to buying an Acura over a Honda or Hyundai or Nissan.... Find that you like your Acura - but wow, talk about the kettle calling the pot black...
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Re: spy shots of 2012 TL [edwardsf]
Again, no body looks at all the post and picks and choose what they want to nit pick on; It is a FACT, German automobiles cost more than their Japanese counter parts with the same equipment, etc. I'm not saying nor did I say that was a bad thing, its just the way it is. All I ever mentioned was the word prestige and how that contributes a lot to German ... Read More
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Re: spy shots of 2012 TL [eclipse2]
If you had read the second post I put up, I said prestige was not the sole and only factor but it has a lot to do with the BMW and MB choices. If you don't think so then your just kidding yourself and if you looked closely at what I was comparing and talking about it was vehicles that were comparably equipped between the German and Japanese automakers. That means, ... Read More
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Re: spy shots of 2012 TL [eclipse2]
I have been buying Acura's from 1991 to 2008 I got sick of the no power I had the 2008 TL type s before that I had the 2006 RL and the 2007 MDX and before that 2003 TL type s the funny thing the MDX was the fastest....lol I got rid of the 2008 TL for the Lexus IS-f got rid of the 2007 MDX for the 2008MB GL550 my ... Read More
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Re: spy shots of 2012 TL [smarty666]
You are wrong! I have been buying Acura's from 1991 to 2008 I got sick of the no power I had the 2008 TL type s before that I had the 2006 RL and the 2007 MDX and before that 2003 TL type s the funny thing the MDX was the fastest....lol I got rid of the 2008 TL for the Lexus IS-f got rid of the 2007 MDX for the ... Read More
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Re: spy shots of 2012 TL [billyperks2]
Acura NSX? Is that even a car anymore? Seriously, I thought they stopped producing that thing years ago.
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Re: spy shots of 2012 TL [xeye]
Even an Acura NSX- wake up and smell the coffee before you start generalizing.
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Re: spy shots of 2012 TL [smarty666]
I drive a 2011 335i xDrive, traded in from a 2007 335xi. When I press on the accelerator, never mind stomp on it, it blows by, as if it was glued to the rails, by any Acura. I test drove both, and the performance, warranty and post-purchase feeling of complete peace leaves me with absolutely no regrets. I had really thought about driving the Super Handling what's-it-called, but the AWD handling ... Read More
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Re: spy shots of 2012 TL [sweendogy]
agree sween with most, but I was only talking about the prestige factor in regards to BMW, MB, and Lexus, not Acura. Your right, Acura sales have been pretty disappointing. If they didn't have the MDX or TSX they would be in really bad shape. Now that we know they are keeping the RL, they need to focus on that and do a complete overhaul on the thing. Its killing them ... Read More
Acura TL Lease Questions
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Re: TL + NAV September rates [kaplanb]
Can't help you on the figures but I'm in the exact same position as you with the exact same cars in question. I went to the www.truecar.com site, printed out the info, took it to my dealer (Miami Acura) and they offered me a 2010 TL/Tech at 34,200 and change (a great deal at about $450/mo). However, they "lowballed" my trade, offering only 22,000 (this on an 08 Navi with only ... Read More
Entry Level Luxury Performance Sedans
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Re: spy shots of 2012 TL [smarty666]
From the sales numbers it doesn't look like many people are buying acuras at all- regardless of prestige factor you speak of. I think for 75% of these cars (in this chat) bought new are traded in within 5 years so I think the reliability factor should be discounted-unless you are looking at used. Most come with 4yr earrantee. Most keep value well regardless of reliability in this group. I think ... Read More
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Re: spy shots of 2012 TL [tlong]
I wasn't trying to make it out that prestige was the only reason but in regards to BMW and MB, when they are similarly equipped/packaged to their Acura, Infiniti, or even Audi counterparts are chosen a lot for the prestige factor for those thousands of dollars extra. For many, its not the only reason as you pointed out. For BMW, it could be for a combo of prestige and sport performance/dynamics ... Read More
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Re: spy shots of 2012 TL [smarty666]
Thats just the way it works out. Mercedes is the same way as BMW once loaded up with the same equipment, tech, etc as a loaded up Acura is. They both are going to cost more. And people pay that by the droves, except for Lexus, MB and BMW have the highest luxury sales b/c people flock to them because of their ridiculous prestige badge While I agree with a lot ... Read More
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Re: spy shots of 2012 TL [fedlawman]
I agree, that BMW can be had a price similar to many Acura models, BUT, and this is big BUT, at the same price, the BMW is lacking many features and technology the Acura comes with at the same price. If you load up the 328 say with the same technology, features, and equipment that a tech package TSX comes with, the Bimmer is going to be a few thousands more. ... Read More
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Re: spy shots of 2012 TL [gbosil]
I agree there are a lot of 3 series BMW's on the road, but I wouldn't call them overpriced. You can buy a 335i for less than you spent on your TSX. As for reliability and cost of repairs, I wouldn't say a BMW 3 series will cost any more to own than an Acura. BMW's have their fair share of problems, but Acura isn't exactly known for their robust clutches, ... Read More
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Re: spy shots of 2012 TL [fedlawman]
Fed... I love Acura! I am a big fan of the brand and think it's the most cutting edge as far as Design and Technology! Best Bang for your buck! I especially like that there arn't too many on the road! BMWs are now a dime a dozen... can't stand them! Way over priced and too costly to repair! Once that 50K warranty runs off GOOD LUCK! Bend over for the ... Read More
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Re: spy shots of 2012 TL [gbosil]
"my 2010 TSX V6 Tech = 35K + 2K OEM ground kit, 19" $5,800 HRE Style 445R wheels and 1K TIEN Coilovers." A $44,000 TSX - You must really like Acura!
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Re: spy shots of 2012 TL [billyperks2]
It's still ugly as all get out! I can't wait for the new redesign!!! Not sure where Acura is going here with their designs but obviously the sales numbers are proving nowhere! My 2007 TLS will hopefully be replaced with it...hopefully.. with my fingers crossed! I love Acura in fact recently purchased a second car 2010 TSX Tech Blk / Tan. Love the car! It was more subdued than the TL. ... Read More
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Re: spy shots of 2012 TL [billyperks2]
not with all your modifications I agree but it looks like the word is getting to acura design team
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spy shots of 2012 TL
http://www.roadandtrack.com/future-cars/spy-photos/spied!-2012-acura-tl
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Re: TL Grill [billyperks2]
Good to see acura addressing it's beak problems - 4 years into the current car- just wondering why it took so long- same could be said of the transmission I guess. 30k cars a year had to be born with that beak_•_ if they only held some focus groups before they released this car they would still be considered a player. Maybe 2012s will bring back the brand. Enjoy the CT ... Read More
Acura TL 2009 +
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Re: Evolution not complete makeover [gbosil]
I am sure the DOWNTURN in the Economy has nothing to do with any of this? $43K is a lot of money for middle america.... I was concerned about my job like so many other americans, and we are not out of the woods just yet. But I decided to stop worrying and pulled the trigger on my SH-AWD 2010 TL. Glad I did and never looked back! I said this ... Read More
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Re: 2012 ACURA TL TYPE S [gbosil]
Nothing wrong with a TSX. They're nice cars. If you don't like the TL (or any car, for that matter), it's certainly not worth your hard earned dollars. I love mine. Can't speak to the 2012s. Personally, I don't think the dealers know any more than any of us for the same reason you mentioned....Acura is so tight lipped. I've got my own theories. Acura has been talking hybrid. I'm betting ... Read More
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Re: 2012 ACURA TL TYPE S [graphicguy]
Thanks for the input graphic. I was talking to my local Acura tech yesterday and he heard a rumor of 350 - 365 HP Acura TLS 2012. He said just a rumor but nonetheless from the same credible source just before the 2007 TLS was released. I guess we will have to wait and see. He said Acura is always sealed tight on any new projects like Fort Knox! :D I ... Read More
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Re: 2012 ACURA TL TYPE S [gbosil]
gbosil....there's been a lot of talk that the SH AWD is the Type S version of the TL. No one's heard anything about the Type S. From what I've read and heard, the 2011s are going to be the same as the 2010s...maybe some minor tweaks here and there. 2012 will be the year for a mid-cycle refreshening. Maybe a Type S then? That said, it seems like Acura has been ... Read More
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2012 ACURA TL TYPE S
Any news on the next generation TL Type S? Can't seem to find anything. Hope they don't scrap any plans in developing one!!
Entry Level Luxury Performance Sedans
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Re: who will be the next to step up?? [marcus216]
Exactly, Acura screwed themselves on the RL just like Nissan, until the newest generation of course, did with the Maxima and Altima. They made the Altima more powerful, nicer materials, etc over their flagship Maxima, which then in turn hurt the Maxima b/c the Altima was cheaper and you were getting more for your money. Thankfully Nissan rectified this problem with the 2009-pres Maxima but will see if they screw it ... Read More
Acura TL 2009 +
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Changes to 4G TL
Autoblog leaked what looks like the early 2012 MMC changes coming to the TL in April of 2011. The TL is going to get a front and rear facelift and hopefully some package changes and feature additions. It looks like the grill is going to be changed to what is going to be on the new TSX wagon! http://www.autoblog.com/photos/spy-shots-2011-acura-tl/#3157519 They say its the 2011 TL but most of us on acurazine ... Read More
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Re: After-market grill [austinman7]
austin...you're welcome. Hope you find what you're looking for. I believe you'll really enjoy your test drives. If Acura goes the way they have in the past, I would expect a refreshening for model year 2012. I don't see any changes in styling, as it's been adapted across their entire lineup. They'd have to dramatically change styling direction across all their models. I know I've seen people who have chastised Acura ... Read More
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Re: Changes to 4G TL [smarty666]
Acura is typically really closed lipped about changes to upcoming models. If they go by their normal schedule, I expect a refreshening for the 2012 MY. Probably some minor tweaks here and there until then. That's just a guess, though.
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Re: Well.... [laurasdada]
I don't think first model year is inherently bad especially coming from a quality company. Major updates are usually 2-3 years into the model anyway and don't forsee any tremendous changes 2010 other than the 6MT. That being said I'm weary Honda will finally come out with their 6AT in 2011 or 2012 but don't think I can wait that long. Other features TL lacks this year compared to competition (335, ... Read More
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6AT
Honda/Acura are working on a 6 speed automatic transmission but they didn't have enough human resources to develop one. I'm sure the 2011 RL will have a 6 speed. Maybe the 2012 TL facelift will have it for sure.
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09 TL rumors from other sites
Yes the type-S might not be until 2012 though. The 09 TL will set the style standard for the new Tier 1 Acura. It's said to be quite a looker. Apparently Edmunds and others went to Louisiana to go see the new TL. Maybe it was a dealer event but it looked like the press event. People say it will be a hit. It will grow larger. Navi will get enhanced ... Read More
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