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Subaru Forester Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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Subaru Forester
I Purchased a New Subaru 2011 2.5x Ltd yesterday 5/5. MSRP-$28,013 Invoice-$26,160 Paid Invoice less $1300 or $24,860. Camelback Subaru in Phoenix delivered it to me (115 Miles) in Tucson. Lithia Subaru in Reno was also very Competitive with their Quote. Very few Foresters are available in Ca,NV,AZ.
Subaru Crew Problems & Solutions
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Re: Updates, Big Help needed [colin_l]
I have a 2000 Forester and only starting having problems after the idler pulley went bad a caused the timing belt to jump. This was past the 200K mark. I like Subaru's so much, I bought a 2011 Outback despite the fact I hate car notes/payments. And have not had one in 10 years.
Subaru Forester Lease Questions
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Re: April lease figures? [fb25forester]
Hi fb25forester. Subaru's current buy rate for a 36 month lease of a 2011 Forester 2.5X Limited is .00190. Car_man Host Prices Paid: Buying & Leasing Experiences Forum
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Re: April lease figures? [weswaz]
Here's the information that you're looking for, Wes. Subaru's current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2011 Forester 2.5X Premium with 10,000 miles per year are .00175 and 62%, respectively. The numbers for an otherwise identical lease of an '11 Forester 2.5 XT Premium are .00180 and 62%. Car_man Host Prices Paid: Buying & Leasing Experiences Forum
Subaru Forester Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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about to buy - financing question
Hi everyone, I put a deposit on a 2011 Forester Premium Auto yesterday at a dealership near me in Massachusetts. Very happy with the deal I got - sent it around to other dealers that say they beat other dealers offers, and nobody wanted to touch it. The internet sales manager was great to deal with, and everyone at the dealership was pretty helpful and nice. In going through the financing, ... Read More
2011 Subaru Forester
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SPORT mode always on?
Hi, We just bought a 2011 Subaru Forester with the 4-speed automatic transmission about 3 weeks ago. We notice that as soon as we start the engine (with the transmission in P), the sport mode indicator on the dash comes on. And it stays on no matter which gear we are in. Is that right? I thought the sport mode indicator is supposed to come on only when I shift to ... Read More
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Stuff I found in cargo area, 2011 forester. What is it?
Hi, We just bought our 11 forester a couple of weeks ago and I was wondering if anyone can let me know what this stuff is I found in the cargo area. Under the floor cover and in the cargo tray there was a small plastic subaru snapped pouch in there. But it was empty and I'm wondering if there was supposed to be something in there? There are also 2 ... Read More
Subaru Forester Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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Re: 2011 Forester 4dr Auto 2.5X Premium w/All-W Pkg & TomTom Nav Price [xwesx]
i went into kendall fairbanks before i had my first oil change to find out what kind of oil my subaru required - the service manager wouldnt confirm it was synthetic. then i go in for my first oil change, and they advised me that synthetic IS required. I am glad that i didnt require oil before that.
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True Market Value Below Invoice?
I notice that the Edmunds TMV for the 2011 Forester Limited is below invoice. Are the dealerships really selling cars for just 2% over cost (basically, the dealer holdback)? Or, is this where fees such as documentation fees and dealer prep fees come in? Does TMV reflect the negotiated MSRP/Invoice price or the pre-tax sign on the dotted line price? Basically, I am trying to get a better idea of how ... Read More
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What does the dealer really pay
What does the car cost the dealer? Just purchased a 2011 Subaru Forester Auto trans allow wheels roof rails motor brakes steering wheel etc all else standard. I wrote a check for 23001.47 cents. Talk about a pain. What is with this auto game. I can buy 1 million in gold contracts with just a few mouse clicks but buying a car is a game I will never understand. No wonder ... Read More
Gold Plus Extended Warranty -- worth it?
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Gold Plus Extended Warranty Experience
I guess I made a "post message" mistake. I added too much contact info concerning my extended warranty dealership. So, I am reposting just for fun. Ifontaine (#79) is right on the mark...both Don and Joe are customer-oriented and easy to work with. I just received a better deal (by $200) from Joe. See original post below: I just had a great experience with the following Subaru Dealership: Roto Subaru Arlington ... Read More
Subaru Forester Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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Re: I am looking at the 2011 Subaru Forester 2.5X Limited [ateixeira]
It could be? One dealer stated that was the case, but I didn't know if I should believe him or not. Others dealers simply said that KBB/Edmunds were 'wrong'.
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Re: I am looking at the 2011 Subaru Forester 2.5X Limited [tvcrider]
Could it be that SoNE adds a bit to the sticker when distributing to the northeast USA?
Subaru Forester Lease Questions
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Re: March Lease Terms [JimmyVegas11]
Hi JimmyVegas11. Subaru's March buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2011 Forester XT Touring with 12,000 miles per year are .00165 and 59%, respectively. Car_man Host Prices Paid: Buying & Leasing Experiences Forum
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Re: jan rates [peteyboy30]
It's no bother at all peteyboy30. Subaru's March buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2011 Forester 2.5X with 12,000 miles per year are .00135 and 59%, respectively. Car_man Host Prices Paid: Buying & Leasing Experiences Forum
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Re: 2011 Forester Limited MF and residual value [plasticmoonrai]
Hi plasticmoonrai. Subaru's current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2011 Forester Limited with 15,000 miles per year are .00190 and 59%, respectively. Car_man Host Prices Paid: Buying & Leasing Experiences Forum
Subaru Forester Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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Used worth more than NEW???
I found a dealer that was selling a 2010 Forester with 25K on it for more than a comparable equiped 2011 that was NEW!!! I contacted the dealer and was told that the Subarus have such GREAT resale that they frequently sell used Subarus for more than new ones! I decided to stay away from that dealer. Anyone else heard anything like that??
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I am looking at the 2011 Subaru Forester 2.5X Limited
I have a question on MSRP. In researching prices have found that dealer sticker prices are higher than those listed on both KBB and Edmunds. Ironically the prices on both KKB and Edmunds are identical. I don't see any special dealer add-ons on the stickers and the higher sticker prices are consistent across dealers I surveyed in Upstate, NY. So why the difference in MSRP between KBB/Edmunds and sticker? For example: ... Read More
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Re: 2011 Subaru Forester X [erics6]
Under $20k with alloys? Out the door? You stole it...
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2011 Subaru Forester X
Bought a 2011 Forester for $19,552 plus registration. No sales tax in Oregon. MSRP was $22,247. 2011 Forester X 5 speed * Alloy Wheel Value Package * Black Roof Rails * Rear Bumper Cover * Security System Individual Shock Sensor * Splash Guard Kit Very painless process at Carr Subaru in Beaverton, Oregon.
2011 Subaru Forester
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Flash Drive Will Not Work!
Test drove a 2011 Subaru Forester XT the other day and everything was cool except the 64 GB SanDisk flash drive with predominantly .WAV files would not work. Any suggestions what the problem might be? Too big a drive capacity? Wrong file format? Ideas anyone?
Subaru Crew Problems & Solutions
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Re: Hitch Possibilities.... [sgloon]
1. When talking about pre vs post 2010---I don't know which variation actually refers to the 2010?? (pre or post, or if it applies to my car at all?) I think this is more for the hole drilling that I am concerned. 2009-2011 Foresters are all the same chassis so you should be good. 4. There is discussion about what to do for an AT. I have a MT, is there ... Read More
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Re: New Car Break-In [fendertweed]
"... my understanding is that the HG problem is largely corrected by my MY ('09)..." The HG problem was caused by the open deck cylinder block design, which was not corrected until the new engine for MY 2011. The HG problem is only mitigated by changes in the HG design, and by the addition of Subaru Coolant Conditioner, which is Holt's RadWeld. Holt's Radweld contains a sealant compound that solidifies when ... Read More
Subaru Forester Engine problems
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Re: Is the the Forester nav system a clunker? [ateixeira]
$1800 is nutz. I bought a 2011 STi and eneded up installing a Kenwood absolute top of the line unit for $1200. Steering wheel control units now will integrate them pretty darn well. For the $ I wouldn't get an OEM system unless it's a lease or you are super concerned about the warranty on the radio itself. -mike Subaru Guru and Track Instructor
Subaru Crew Problems & Solutions
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RE: my posting #18900 oil leak [joe_in_pa]
"04 Forester with 72K miles leaking oil. Dealer confirmed oil leak and it is the head gaskets. $1100 repair estimate... My problem is that this is an oil leak due to defective head gaskets, not a coolant leak. The "magic elixer" in the coolant would have nothing to do with this. It is plain head gasket failure and no matter how much Subaru recommened crap you add to the coolant, it ... Read More
Subaru Forester Engine problems
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Re: new forester engine noise [montville524]
"I have a 2011 forester with the new FB25B engine .when i start it up in the morning the motor makes a noise like the main bearings are worn. the noise clears in a couple of seconds.the dealer told me this was normal.it maybe normal for a car with 200,000 miles on it,but this car has 600 miles on it.any reason for this noise. ..." The sound is a loose rattling ... Read More
Subaru Forester Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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Re: 2011 Forester 4dr Auto 2.5X Premium w/All-W Pkg & TomTom Nav Price [xwe
I bought it in alaska. Im not very satisfied with my buying experience, but i'm hoping my subaru can live up to the hype. Ive finally got about 1000 miles on it, but the average fuel consumption is terrible.
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Re: So, how much? [ateixeira]
I have been driving Subarus since 1977. As for first impressions of the 2011 Forester. The most important, high tech items on the car is: The oil filter on top of the engine where a human can get to it. Whoever the engineer was who came up with that idea, many thanks. Hundreds of millions of cars world wide and you got it right. I didn't check as I usually do ... Read More
2010 Forester XT "Clunk"
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2011 Forester XT "clunk"
I have a new 2011 Forester XT with only 1800 miles on it that has made this noise since I bought it. After starting it any time, not just first thing in the morning, and within moving 50 yards or so there is a very noticeable clunk. I told the dealer at the 30 day check and at first they were surprised. Then they said all Foresters do this. So i ... Read More
Subaru Forester Lease Questions
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Re: jan rates [peteyboy30]
Hi again peteyboy30. Here you go. Subaru's February buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2011 Forester 2.5X with 12,000 miles per year are .00195 and 61%, respectively. The destination charge should be included in your vehicle's MSRP and selling price. You can either pay the acquisition fee at signing or add it into the "additional costs" section that you mentioned to bake ... Read More
2011 Subaru Forester
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Forester S Edition
http://www.themotorreport.com.au/51346/2011-subaru-forester-and-forester-s-editi- on-launched-in-australia http://www.caradvice.com.au/102023/subaru-forester-s-edition-review/ Bob sent these links to me, my reactions (I'll copy/paste): Wow, what a beautiful blue on that front page! Love the blue alcantara seats as well. Why can't we get that? Gorgeous... They made the backup cam standard even on the XS, sort of our Premium model. Self-leveling rear suspension, too, which disappeared here with the LL Bean models. Also: "As with the auto WRX STI, the Forester ... Read More
2010 Forester bought yesterday-Check Engine Light Seriously?
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Re: 2010 Forrester bought yesterday-Check Engine Light Seriously? [paisan]
I took it back this morning and they were doing all their diagnostic checks. An hour later, I took a test-drive with the mechanic and it did the same thing all over again. The current status of the vehicle is that it is an issue with the transmission. They did explain the CEL causing the VDC and Cruise to disable themselves, but they notice that the transmission seems to trigger a ... Read More
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Re: 2010 Forrester bought yesterday-Check Engine Light Seriously? [foxewolf]
I actually just experienced this same issue. I had just gotten my 2011 forester yesterday. I drive up a hill and the Transmission seems to slam out of gear and rev high. Next thing I see is the "AT Oil Temp" Light beginning to blink, followed by a solid "ABS" light. I pull over to the side of the road and shut off the engine. After about 10 minutes I restart ... Read More
Subaru Forester Lease Questions
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Re: jan rates [mwahlert]
Hey mwahlert. Subaru's January buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2011 Forester XT Touring with 15,000 miles per year are .00200 and 60%, respectively. Car_man Host Prices Paid: Buying & Leasing Experiences Forum
2011 Subaru Forester
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Re: Temp indicator on 2011 non-turbo? [ateixeira]
Yup, even the need is a dummy gauge. Cold, Normal, Hot. When I was discussing putting gauges in with the forester/impreza guru at Subaru, I told him for the STi I would like to see digital gauges similar to the ones I have in my CTSV, which is a small LCD panel embedded in the cluster where you can scroll through several gauges that show things in digital/analog format on a ... Read More
Subaru Forester Engine Choices
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Re: engine [saedave]
Also, the 2011 Turbo Subaru motors are now doing 7,000 mile oil changes so the oil change interval is the same for both. Persoanlly, I'd go for the new NA motor. It's got a nice torque band and in a forester it's all you'll need to get around. -mike
Subaru Crew Problems & Solutions
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Re: Looking at the 2011 Outback [xwesx]
I purchased a 2003 Saturn L200 while I replaced the engine on the Forester. But the Saturn is not good in adverse weather(nothing like driving a Subaru). So I want to trade it in for an Outback and use the Forester as an everyday car.
2011 Subaru Forester
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Re: Temp indicator on 2011 non-turbo? [aatherton]
The new Touring model does have a needle-style temp gauge: http://www.cars101.com/subaru/forester/forester2011.html They write: engine coolant temp gauge (so no blue cold engine light like all the other models). Let me see if I can imbed the image:
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Re: 2011 Subaru Forester [ateixeira]
I have never seen a non-synthetic oil that is rated as 0W-, so that alone says to me that you'll need synthetic. Synthetic is a better oil, so feel good about it. ;)
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Re: 2011 Subaru Forester [rustythepuppy]
New All models require synthetic oil. 2.5L uses 0W-20. Turbo XT models require synthetic 5W-30 oil. Per cars101.com.
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Re: 2011 Subaru Forester [priggly]
all trims require synthetic? ive got an xprem nonturbo, and the service mgr at subaru said only turbos require synthetic, but he also said the oil is indicated on the cap. mine says 0w-20 -- which i cannot find.
2011 Forester Engine
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Re: 2011 Forester Engine [daniell]
"... what is the implication of that design for the headgasket reliability issue?" If that poster (in another forum) was indeed looking at an open cylinder block deck, it implies that Subaru has been able to make the cylinders rigid enough not to need semi-closed bracing at the top. The semi-closed decks of the turbo and diesel engines must be sand cast, which is expensive. Each mold must be made of ... Read More
Subaru Forester Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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Re: How about this price for 2011 forester auto 2.5X/awp [fnamowicz]
VIN etching is also done Free in some parts of the country by the police - I had my car etched in NY - they did all the windows of the VW Jetta - I am waiting to get the Subaru Forrester done for the free push - it also can save on ionsurance in some places. Check with your insurer, I am sure a chop shop could burn the numbers ... Read More
Subaru Forester Lease Questions
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Re: 2010 vs 2011 [cdnj1]
Hi cdnj1. Given the fact that Subaru is not currently providing much in the way of cash incentives on the Forester, a selling price of under invoice is a very good deal. Subaru's December buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2010 Forester 2.5X Premium with 12,000 miles per year are .00095 and 54%. The numbers for an otherwise identical lease of a ... Read More
2011 Forester Engine
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Re: 2011 Forester Engine [morin2]
I think that with the new chain-driven DOHC, Subaru has brought us their last pure fuel engine, which they did in preparation for its next evolution to hybrid.
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Re: 2011 Forester Engine [aatherton]
Please, please, please, Subaru bring us the boxer diesel next. What good will the new DOHC gas engine be when gas is degraded so much by more ethanol. PLEASE bring over the boxer diesel!
2011 Subaru Forester
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Re: 2011 Subaru Forester [fnamowicz]
... concerned on the clatter during start up on a cold engine even if it goes away after it warms up. It sounds like an old car with bad lifters. Mine is not a clatter like bad lifters. It is just not a sewing machine at a cold start, like my other car which is a Japanese inline four.
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Re: 2011 Subaru Forester [fnamowicz]
I find our 2 10 Foresters (PZEZs) much noisier than our previous 5. This is only at start-up and lasts for about 10 to 15 seconds. It is not "lifter" type noise, just busy noise, and slightly "rough" sounding. Part of it sounds like something is being vented and then closes. Maybe due to something with the air pump upon starting.
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Re: 2011 Subaru Forester [xwesx]
I don't mind the growl but concerned on the clatter during start up on a cold engine even if it goes away after it warms up. It sounds like an old car with bad lifters.
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Re: 2011 Subaru Forester [ateixeira]
My 2008 boxer engine has no growl. I do wish it had the rumble that old Foresters have. It does have some clatter when started up cold. Sounds perfectly normal, but not as quiet as 1.5L inline four in our other Japanese car.
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Re: The 2011 Forester is now on the Subaru website! [priggly]
It's all good.
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Re: The 2011 Forester is now on the Subaru website! [kiln]
My statement about the speakers in the new Forester being Harman-Kardon was in error. I took the information out of a general blurb on Subaru audio systems which referred to Harman-Kardon for some of their lines but it did not in fact apply to Forester. The new Forester audio speakers are apparently Panasonic. My apologies.
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Re: 2011 Subaru Forester [ateixeira]
Yeah, I cannot comment on the new engine - I haven't heard it yet. The engines on all my Subaru's - all the EJ25 (one a DOHC, the other three SOHC) - were not noisy unless the oil level was low. My last three, in which I use(d) a high-quality synthetic, are particularly quiet on start-up and run very smooth. These engines do not have the balances required on in-line and ... Read More
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Re: 2011 Subaru Forester [fnamowicz]
Boxers have a characteristic growl to them, most would not compare to a cement truck, though.
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2011 Subaru Forester
Why do they all sound like cement mixers at start up? Dealer said that this is normal I think it's embarrassing.
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Re: The 2011 Forester is now on the Subaru website! [priggly]
Where does it say the Forester gets the 440 watt Harman Kardon system? I've only seen it in the Outback and Legacy. From what I can tell it's not listed as one of the options. Unless the 7 speaker system in the Touring is Harman Kardon (not specified). Hopefully I'm missing it somewhere. http://www.subaru.com/content/static/vehicles/forester/compare.html
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Re: 2011 Subaru Forester [bdyment]
It may be ancient but it still works just fine. More gears is not necessarily better. Look at the Germans. They are up to eight or even more and are still not satisfied!
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Re: 2011 Subaru Forester [orbit9090]
Still has the rather ancient four speed automatic. Overdue for a five or six speed.
Subaru Forester Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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Re: 2010 Subaru Forester Premium 2.5x [joepat711]
Congrats on your purchase! That's almost the exact same deal I got in eastern PA (~1300 under invoice) a few weeks ago on my 2010 2.5x Premium. The day I took delivery (Oct 14) is the day that they got their first shipment of 2011 models and I had a quick look. Nothing to make me regret getting a 2010, but I do envy the new stereo in the 2011. The ... Read More
2011 Subaru Forester
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2011 Subaru Forester
2011 Subaru Forester is online as of now: 2011 Subaru Forester
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The 2011 Forester is now on the Subaru website!
And boy is it improved with a dual-zone climate control system and a high-end Harmon-Kardon 440 watt audio system with upgraded head unit! Gone are the days of crappy sound in the Forester. http://www.subaru.com/engineering/electronics-audio/premium-sound.html The NAV system is also improved. http://www.subaru.com/engineering/electronics-audio/navigation.html http://www.subaru.com/vehicles/forester/index.html This baby is mucho improved and well may be my next car! And to top it all off, the big bonus is the steering wheel does not shake!
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Re: 2011 Subaru Forester [aatherton]
7500-mile normal-use oil change interval with synthetic oil should apply equally But without a service bulletin confirming, one should not presume warranty coverage.
2011 Forester Engine
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Re: 2011 Forester Engine [saedave]
... where is the semi-closed deck block specified? That is the assumption, and the question. The old and present DOHC turbo engine has the semi-enclosed cylinder block deck, so it is assumed that the new DOHC naturally aspirated (NA) engine has the same. Why else would Subaru roll out a new NA engine with DOHC and supposedly lifetime chain cam drives, only to have the complex chain drives at the mercy ... Read More
2011 Subaru Forester
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Re: 2011 Subaru Forester [saedave]
The 7500-mile normal-use oil change interval with synthetic oil should apply equally to the XT engines before 2011, as the engines are unchanged.
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Re: 2011 Subaru Forester [priggly]
As of July that was the message. It is not at all logical from an engineering standpoint that the 2010 turbo engine requires more frequent oil changes than the exact same engine labeled 2011. I will change the oil in my Forester XT every 3000+ miles whatever the recommendation. Service writers at my local dealer have mentioned the foul condition of the oil drained from all the turbos. I buy my ... Read More
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Re: 2011 Subaru Forester [saedave]
No. For 2011: http://www.cars101.com/subaru/maintenance2.html For 2010 and earlier: http://www.cars101.com/subaru/subaru_maintenance1.html
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Re: 2011 Subaru Forester [priggly]
The oil change interval for the XT Turbo under "normal use" has been increased to 7,500 miles with the new Subaru Synthetic oil. I wonder if this recommendation will apply to prior year XT Turbos?
2011 Forester Engine
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Re: 2011 Forester Engine [priggly]
Subaru may finally have produced an engine that is no longer prone to the dreaded head gasket problem because this new one is of semi-closed deck block design. I hope you are correct, but where is the semi-closed deck block specified? The problem MIGHT be solveable by the smaller bore also. I don't know whether the failures started with the change from 2.2 to 2.5 liters.
2011 Subaru Forester
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2011 Subaru Forester
The new 2011 Subaru Forester offers a host of new and upgraded features compared to the outgoing model. Foremost among these features is a new New engine- 2.5L 4 cylinder boxer engine, now 2498 cc engine (was 2457cc), new chain-drive DOHC double overhead cam (replacing belt drive SOHC), new coolant system for block and head, slighly longer piston stroke, lighter components. Fuel economy 21/27 for both manual and automatic non-turbo 2.5L ... Read More
2011 Forester Engine
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Re: 2011 Forester Engine [propwash49]
Subaru may finally have produced an engine that is no longer prone to the dreaded head gasket problem because this new one is of semi-closed deck block design. Hurrah! They may have been geologically slow in bringing this engine to market but at least they got there. Time will tell if it is in fact reliable. The old one was not.
Subaru Forester Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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Re: 2011 Subaru Forester 2.5 X Touring [nandan02]
No PZEV Grand Subaru, Bensenville, Illinois. 2011 2.5x Touring, Bumper cover, Body side moldings, Auto dimming mirror with homelink. I also added all weather matts for $40.00 more
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Re: 2011 Subaru Forester 2.5 X Touring [ateixeira]
This was one of the first. The oil filter location is great. We had a price on 2010 limited 24,495 but for 1600.00 more we got much more. HID lights were very important and chain driven engine, no more timing belt to change.The 2011 touring has much more value than 2010.
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Re: 2011 Subaru Forester 2.5 X Touring [jk2011tour]
Congrats jk2011tour. That's a great price!! Which dealership & location please, if you don't mind sharing? Also, is it PZEV? What factory installed accessories were included in the price?
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Re: 2011 Subaru Forester 2.5 X Touring [jk2011tour]
Congrats, does that make you the first 2011 owner? Pop the hood and check out the location of the oil filter - brilliant. Cars101 also mentioned it got upgraded interior materials, did you compare to a 2010 and if so, what did you notice was improved?
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2011 Subaru Forester 2.5 X Touring
:) First time Subaru owner and very happy. Ordered car 5 weeks ago and took delivery on 10/22. 2011 Forester 2.5X Touring Sage Green. Price Paid MSRP $29347.00 Invoice $ 27,538.00. Price Paid $ 26,122.00 Plus Tax doc fee plate transfer. This was one sweet deal for a great car.
Subaru Forester Lease Questions
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Re: Forester 2010 lease vs. 2011 [steine13]
What about buying it outright. Do Subaru's hold their value? Never had one. Love your insight. Thanks.
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Re: 2011 information [Car_man]
Yep, you got that right. Well, I feel that it bodes well for Subaru obviously, and I don't mind paying a little more for a car that seems to do everything right (for me). For everyone else looking for a 2011, I got tired of getting different information from dealers. One dealer told me late this month, another told me December (!). So, I called Subaru directly, and they told me ... Read More
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Re: 2011 information [peteyboy30]
No problem peteyboy30. The Forester's residual values are so high and Subaru's sales have been so strong that it really doesn't have to provide much in the way of money factor support to sell them right now. Car_man Host Prices Paid: Buying & Leasing Experiences Forum
Subaru Forester - Anyone pick up a 2011 yet?
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Re: Subaru Announces 2011 Forester [orbit9090]
This was buried in the press release: ________ All Forester models now come with a new grill design as well as an updated instrument panel with a softer, textured material for enhanced interior appearance. ________ This is good news, as it signals Subaru has gotten the message that a lot of hard plastic in the interior turns people off. Rumor has it that the all-new 2012 Impreza will also have a ... Read More
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Subaru Announces 2011 Forester
Subaru Announces 2011 Forester 2011 Forester features an all-new 2.5L DOHC Subaru Boxer Engine Subaru today announced 2011 pricing for its award-winning Forester model starting at $20,495 equipped with manual transmission, a modest $200 increase from 2010. The automatic transmission version starts at $21,695. The 2011 Forester's all-new 2.5L DOHC SUBARU BOXER® Engine improves on the Forester's already impressive fuel efficiency. All Forester models now come with a new grill design ... Read More
Interesting info on synthetic oil recommendation
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Re: Subaru oil change intervals [xwesx]
"... I'm no fan of the hot exhaust... but it is easily solved with the help of an oil filter socket... I don't like the concept of a top-mounted filter (sounds messy and would be problematic to pre-fill)..." I have done my Forester oil changes at 3,750 miles for 24,000 miles. The gusher of oil from the oversize plug, and the filter location, make it the hardest car I have ever ... Read More
Subaru Forester Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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Subaru Forester 2010 Limited PZEV in SoCal
My wife and I just bought a 2010 Subaru Limited PZEV with the Nav package, bumper guard, home link, etc in Southern California. The MSRP was around $29,950. The dealer showed us the invoice which was $27,542. After a lot of negotiating and even walking away at one point we got them down to $26,200, no extra fees. We put $20,000 down and financed the rest using the 1.9% finance deal ... Read More
Interesting info on synthetic oil recommendation
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Re: Subaru oil change intervals [saedave]
"For the NA, the 2.5L has no changes to displacement or power. But the NA does get DOHC and chain drive, for which it is called a new engine." "... Not what I read: 1) more displacement 2) max torque at lower rpm" We are both reading the same article that says: "... slightly larger displacement (2,498cc vs. 2,457cc)... horsepower remains at 170... Torque edges up from 170 at 4,400 rpm ... Read More
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Re: Subaru oil change intervals [saedave]
"... where has Subaru revealed "semi-closed deck" for the 2011 NA Forester engine?" They have not. You must infer it. This says the turbo and the diesel use the DOHC semi-closed deck which saves the head gaskets: "The BOXER DIESEL adopts a semi-closed cylinder block deck to improve the rigidity around the head gaskets, following the precedent of the semi-closed type used in the Subaru EJ20 turbocharged gasoline engine." http://www.boxerdiesel.com/engineering/en/03.html Then ... Read More
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Re: Subaru oil change intervals [aatherton]
The sand-cast semi-closed decks do not place stress on the head gaskets, which is why this design is being used for the new NA engines. But where has Subaru revealed "semi-closed deck" for the 2011 NA Forester engine? We all would be pleased with that design and it was one of several reasons I bought a 2010 XT for my mainly slow city driving...as well as the better match of lower ... Read More
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Re: Subaru oil change intervals [aatherton]
Subaru currently has two different blocks for four cylinder engines: 1) the normally aspirated engine has an open deck design that is cast in a process that does not require sand to be shaken out of the completed casting. 2) The XT/WRX/STI have a semiclosed deck design that requires cleaning of the mold remnants. I wonder which deck design is used in the new 2011 Forester?
Subaru Forester - Anyone pick up a 2011 yet?
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Re: Anyone pick up a 2011 yet? [rsholland]
I checked with 2 Subaru dealers they told me that they do not have any pricing for the 2011 Forester. I think that Subaru is playing games one dealer told me that he would take orders based on the 2010 prices with a 4% mark up, I walked out.
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Re: Anyone pick up a 2011 yet? [saedave]
I heard that Subaru was waiting for a more favorable dollar-yen relationship. My guy at Herb Gordon Subaru thinks that's the case. He's not expecting any '11 Foresters until November. Bob
Subaru Crew Problems & Solutions
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Re: new subaru? [logtrail]
There is a new engine in the 2011 Forester that will make 4 cylinders more responsive to drive with slightly better fuel economy and probably better long term reliability. September is said to be the introduction. While I haven't seen measurements, my 2010 Forester's "H" point seems higher than it did when I drove the 2010 Outback. The Outback is enough wider (outside only) that it might be a negative. Inside ... Read More
Interesting info on synthetic oil recommendation
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Interesting info on synthetic oil recommendation
From Joe Spitz at cars101: "Synthetic oil - Subaru is now recommending using Subaru Synthetic 5W-30 oil for 2010 and prior turbo engines, and requiring it for all 2011 turbo engines. The oil change interval does not appear to have changed. This oil is also recommended for all non-turbo vehicles, except the new 2011 Forester 2.5L (non turbo) due later this year which will use a 0W-20 Subaru synthetic oil."
Subaru Crew Problems & Solutions
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Re: thinking about buying a subaru [girlcarbuilder]
Coincidentally, they just did move to a timing chain for the 2011 Forester. It's also back to a DOHC design. Other models still use a belt.
Did I get a good deal on my 2010 Subaru Forester 2.5x
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Help on purchasing subaru
Hello, I want to ask for some help. I'm planning to buy a 2010 subaru forester preminum trim. Question 1. How much should I spend to buy it? Question 2. Should I wait for the 2011 model?
Mitsubishi Outlander vs. Subaru Forester
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Re: Mitsubishi Outlander GT [fushigi]
Mitsu's site listed BMW and Subaru. Maybe I didn't scroll to the right enough? Or were you talking about Edmunds? Any how, Mitsu is certainly ambitious if they list BMW and Acura. Anyone who wants to spend $33k on a Subie can get an Outback 3.6R Limited with Navi, and that gets a backup cam with trajectory lines (does Outlander have those?), big engine power, and a huge 8" Nav screen ... Read More
All-New 2010 Legacy/Outback
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Re: Bluetooth phone - sound quality experiences -- good or bad? [jeffm5]
Thanks jeffm5. After doing a little more testing (trying a 3rd or even a 4th phone, removing navigation DVD and USB stick, etc.) to try to isolate the problem to either my phone or the nav unit, I'm going to report this to my dealer as a warranty issue. Seems to be a big bummer that those without the nav are reporting great sound on the receiving caller's end, whereas those ... Read More
Mitsubishi Outlander vs. Subaru Forester
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Re: 2.5 X Forester 2010 with Touring Package vs. 2010 Chevy Equinox [ateixeira]
>> Too bad Mitsu doesn't offer a manual tranny here. Why, “too bad”? You did not even buy manual Forester? I can’t imagine you would be buying manual Outlander. >> I'd like to see Mitsu sell a Ralliart sportback - is that combination offered? Not to my knowledge, but Mitsu will be offering a smaller SUV 1.8L turbo combined with Mitsubishi's Twin Clutch SST gearbox and an AWD system. http://blogs.thecarconnection.com/marty-blog/1037414_mitsubishi-previews-new-com- - ... Read More
2009 Subaru Forester
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CR-V Updates for 2010...
Subaru likely keeps an eye on the competition: http://www.autoblog.com/2009/09/10/officially-official-2010-honda-cr-v-recieves-- modest-tweakage/ 180hp now for the CR-V, vs. 170 or 175 (PZEV) for the Forester. The Forester does still have more torque, 170 to 161. Honda also improved fuel economy by 1mpg, per EPA measures. They fixed something I complained about recently - the door handles now have rubber grips. I had said the painted metallic trim on the old one would be ... Read More
All-New 2010 Legacy/Outback
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Re: new look [rsholland]
especially the NAVI-equipped 3.6 Bob, Once inside and driving I would probably agree that it is much nicer than the Forester. But how do I get inside the Outback without looking at it? Perhaps a 2011 (2012?) refinement of the styling will fix it. Subaru seems to have gone back to its early days when I had to make excuses for my used potato sack upholstery...but now it is the exterior. ... Read More
2009 Subaru Forester
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09 test drive
After months of lurking & lusting, we took an 09 X-Limited AT out for a 20 mile test. I don't have much to say that has not already been said, but feel a need to express myself. Obviously the 09 has many siginificant improvements over my 03 XS - much better ride, less road noise, roomier, really liked the power leather seats (almost as good as our A4, cushions a little ... Read More
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