Wow. First, thanks for doing the homework for all of us, and second, thanks for posting your findings. Really impressive. Being the owner of a 2009 Civic, I would like to know the following if it is improved on the 2012 model: 1) Noise (mainly road noise). You mentioned that it is somewhat quieter, but is it as quiet as, say, the Corolla? Cruze? 2) Ride quality. The 2009 handles beautifully, ... Read More
Actually, we're not young adults at all, much older in fact! You mentioned noise. Go drive both back to back over the same section of road to see for yourself. The Elantra GLS and the Civic 2012 EX were equal on cabin noise at different ends of the speedo. The Elantra from 0- 45 mph exhibited less road noise than the Civic. Speeds above 45mph the Elantra started to suffer from ... Read More
Wow, where do I start? So, after driving like a "Dukes Of Hazzard" plot for three hours or so the Civic was what? the car to beat (that means drive it like you don't own it which you clearly did) or use as a get-a-way car next time you rob the local branch? I actually own a 2006 Civic and was suprised to hear one could take turns with 30 mph ... Read More
My friend was in the market for a new compact car. So we took all the top selling compacts on a back to back test loop. First Chrysler 200 then a Chevy Cruze, Ford Focus 2012, Ford Fiesta, Mazda i3, Toyota Corolla 2012, and Hyundai Elantra 2011. Every car was an automatic with mid level specifications for around $20,000 in most cases except the less expensive Elantra and Fiesta models. The ... Read More
Civic may not have class-leading resale value OR reliability. For example, ALG says the Elantra is tops in the compact class for residual value, and JD Power says that the Prius, Elantra, and Matrix are the top 3 compacts in its latest Vehicle Dependability Study, and that brand-wise Honda is behind 10 other brands in dependability, including Toyota and Hyundai. As for lowest ownership costs, that is hard to believe given ... Read More
Hi sport flyer1. Honda Finance is not currently providing any lease support on the Civic. As a result, if you were to lease one through Honda Finance right now, you would have to use its standard lease program. Its current buy rate standard lease money factor for 36 month leases is .00200 for consumers who qualify for its top aka "Super Preferred" credit tier. A money factor of .00200 is equivalent ... Read More
I am planning to lease a 4 door lx, because it is the feature lease ( manufacturer supported lease). Seems like Honda is now only giving lease support on the 2012's here in Socal. They are offering 2.9% financing on the 2011. I have done an early trade before, man they really ding you on that, best thing is finish up the lease, 95% of Civics are made in North America ... Read More
Hi car man Honda released their 05-03 to 6-02 feature lease on the Civic an LX auto for $189 /36 months, no security dep. and $2599 due plus tax & lic. $19504 msrp and $13,000 residual Plan to take advantage of our tier one credit, so what is the Money factor on this deal. Is it a great deal, good deal or average deal? Are they firm on this payment, or ... Read More
Congratulations on your 2012 Civic... I completely understand your concern regarding having to pay MSRP - Regrettably I did the same thing in late 2007 when I purchased a brand new 2008 Accord EX coupe just as it became available, and, at the time I didn't care about having to pay sticker price. Having just purchased a 2011 Accord EX-L V6 navi coupe, I received more than 4600.00 off, 0.9 financing ... Read More
It is for 2011 model though. Hopefully, Honda improved these for 2012 model. http://www.insideline.com/honda/civic/2011/2011-honda-civic-gets-two-stars-in-la- test-nhtsa-crash-test.html
Well, no, I am talking about TODAY'S market but I also realize that TOMORROW'S marketplace may very well change. People have short memories. And you are spot on with your "tough, tough field" these days. So many cars to pick from and none of them "bad". Personally, I think the latest offerings from Ford will be much more of a threat to Honda. They REALLY got their act together!
"""If you like the design of the Civic and the Accord, you need to go to work for Honda. You would fit right in.""" So by your logic you should be working for Hyundai, as others here, and I suspect you have a fondness for the upcoming Korean brand and feel the need to express said opinion in the HONDA CIVIC 2012 ROOM. Peace and love to you
I'm sorry but I watched the Korean cars do poorly at the auctions and as used cars (for us, anyway) they were never easy to sell. Because of this, I think a two or three year old Hyundai could be a great value. Since they are so close in price to a Honda, I just can't see why anyone would buy one. Of course, that is only my opinion. Granted, they ... Read More
1. Use the internet. Get price quote from dealers within 50miles radius. Ask for the out the door price. Don't be afraid to tell them that their quote is higher than the others. They might lower the price eve more. 2. Narrow down the number of dealers in your list to maybe 10 (those that gave you the lowest OTD). 3. If you are paying it in cash or will be ... Read More
I got an offer of $17,900 OTD from Buena Park Honda.The bad news is that they already run out of stock. Diamond Honda and Spreen Honda still have some 2011 LXs left. Their OTD is a little bit higher than then one I got from BP. If the dealer tells you that 2011 civics are running out fast that's why they are sold at a higher price, don't believe them. I ... Read More
I got my 2012 Honda Civic LX 2 days ago. It got 5 miles on it and the dealer received it just 4 days ago. I am very happy with it even though it costs around $3,000 more than the 2011 LX. I did not buy any extended warranty. Why?Coz it's a Honda! And when the time comes that I want to trade it in for a new car, I am ... Read More
I beg your pardon, but I stand by what I said. By the way, what difference does it make if I mentioned the Accord in this chat room. If you like the design of the Civic and the Accord, you need to go to work for Honda. You would fit right in.
I had a 2006 Civic and I currently have a 2005 Accord. The Civic had a misdesigned rear suspension and that had to be replaced at 65000 miles. Honda agreed to pay half of that. My 2006 was a coupe, which I thought was a nice looking car. I sold it and kept the Accord. I did not like the 2006-2011 four door design. I hate the look of the 2012 ... Read More
You are clearly still a "Honda" person who is living in the past. Wake up. There is no longer a "stigma" in buying a Korean car... except maybe in your mind and in the minds of your buddies at the Honda store. Have you noticed that the new Hyundais are selling for near MSRP these days? How does that equate with stigma? How does that equate with low resale value? What ... Read More
Since I pushed the retirement button last year I have no "skin in the game" so please don't jump back at me for being a Honda person. Today I was in my old store having my oil changed and one of my buddies handed me the keys to a 2012 Civic LX and said " let's go!" And so we did. I didn't see any of the cheapness someone mentioned about ... Read More
OK, going back to the Honda site I have found that it is the same size (1.8 liter), has the same horsepower (140) and torque (128 lb-ft) the same configuration (SOHC i-VTEC) BUT the site states it has "many friction reducing and airflow improvements" so maybe not totally the same but...close enough! Honda credits improvements in fuel economy to "Weight-saving technologies, improved aerodynamics and engine modifications result in a new Civic ... Read More
While you're making corrections, note that the 2012 Civic's powertrain can't be exactly like 2006-11, or the FE numbers wouldn't be any better than for 2011. But they are. So Honda must have tweaked the powertrain for 2012 even if the engine size, HP, and number of cogs in the tranny are the same.
No, the 2012 Civic IS a refreshed 2006-11 model in that is has the exact same drivetrain (engine and transmission, a 5 speed auto. at that as others such as the Elantra have moved on to a 6 speed) as the prior generation. Many of the body panels were revised somewhat as were the grill and headlights. Same with the rear tailights and bumper. The interior was refreshed as well with ... Read More
The 2012 Civic price was $17800.00 at Gurnee Honda. Did'nt like the 2012, looks cheap and the quality of materials are bad. Cost cutting is evident. I'm going to buy a Chev Cruse, much better car for the money.
Vagabonndchef Did you check to see what price you could get the 2022 civic LX automatic? I am from northern il also and interested in the 2011
I believe the Elantra has a spare tire (although it probably is the compact spare as is the Civic's). As for a "remote trunk key" I assume you mean a remote trunk release on the key fob? If so, well yes, the Civic does have a remote trunk release on the fob BUT, if I am not mistaken only the top line EX and above models have that feature. That was ... Read More
Easy does it. There is no way this article can be viewed as objective. These are new cars and aside from the looks you can't predict their performance . Besides, looks are subjective. I test drove the Elantra and the Civic but the test drive did not persuade me to choose one over the other. One can point out that the Honda is more expensive but it also comes with a ... Read More
2012 Honda Civic Sedan and Coupe - First Drive Review
You're kidding, right? Outrageous price for a car that's no better than the others in the compact field. Wait awhile to buy & things will change no doubt and just remember, the Civic is no longer at the top of the heap...there are better cars with higher mileage & longer warranties! Never rush into a car purchase if the price isn't right. Just remember, Honda can ask whatever they want...no one ... Read More
Not sure vagabondchef. I'm hunting for a good deal myself and don't know what the best price for a '12 is. The dealer said they are not discounting the '12 at all and that we are expected to pay full price. His explanation was about the parts shortage due to the transmissions coming from Japan and the plants shutdown due to the quake. He said if he discounts the 12s, then ... Read More
Tell them it needs to be no more than $18k or you'll buy an Elantra, see what they say. ;)
Got a quote for a 2012 Civic LX with auto today for $19000.00 plus tax, title in Gurnee, IL . Is It a good Deal? Please advise.
Got an offer today to buy a 2012 Civic LX automatic for $19000.00 plus tax title in Gurnee, IL. Is it a good Deal?
I am in the market for a used 2006 or later Civic LX Sedan (if I can get it for under 12k) or a new 2011 or 12 LX Sedan if I can get it for $15k +TTL. We went to Honda of Dulles in Sterling, VA. The '12 model we drove wasn't inspected yet so the radio etc weren't working and we weren't allowed to drive out of the lot. ... Read More
I stoppped by my local dealer today and they had several of the 2012 civics in stock. I was waiting to look at this car to try to decide between a few different models. The decision not to buy the civic was very quick. I have to say that the interior quality is the absolute worst that I have ever seen. The top of the door panels are made of a ... Read More
I think the dearth of reviews is more Honda's fault than anything. They tend to hold back on making cars available for test drives until the car is officially introduced to dealerships. Maybe that's so they have more time to clear out the old cars.
Test drove the EX today and I admit to being pleasantly surprised by the seat comfort , roominess and handling. The dash board is let's say different but not a deal breaker. According to the salesman the nav system comes only with the EX-L. No surprise here since Honda was never known for being flexible. The lowest price tag I saw locally for the EX is 20,300 leading one to question ... Read More
It looks a little less Starship Enterprise for 2012 to me. Maybe it's a few straighter lines, or maybe because I'm used to it since it was first seen in 2005. Not nearly as nice a dash as the likes of Cruze, Elantra, Focus, or Mazda3 though. It's unmistakably Honda though. I hope the driving experience is improved over the 2006-11 generation, otherwise I think it will be a tough sell ... Read More
Sigh. So they keep the space shuttle dashboard....
Great pics! The last one, of the window sticker on the LX sedan, is the most interesting to me. LX automatic sedan is $19,400--or about $1400 more than the Elantra GLS automatic. And the Elantra has more interior room, gets better fuel economy (EPA), has more power and one more cog in the AT, has 16" wheels vs. 15", and of course a longer warranty. And the Elantra looks better to ... Read More
Just thought some may want to see the gallery of civic photos prior to the unveiling by honda. Enjoy http://9thcivic.com/forum/threads/largest-photo-collection-of-2012-civics.455/
Was there early this morning for an oil change & sat in a few cars...the CR-Z and the Insight being the most interesting of them. Hated the view out of the back of the Insight and the dash & controls were ugly to put it bluntly...like the Civic's so much more. Even the seats weren't that comfortable as what I've got in my '06 model...understand now why it's not selling in ... Read More
.....so I plan to view the 2012 Honda Civic. Altho' my efficient/swift Accord 6M remains respected, IMHO the time to look for a car is when you really don't need one. What have we got: ...the TSX 4-cyl with 6M ..500 pounds off the TSX weight ..TSX numbers are 7 flat/15.4 (to 60/QM) Ergo, the 9th Gen Civic (Si) won't be a fast as my current car (but it will be ... Read More
I have an offer of $19,300 for the Civic ex 2011 after title and taxes and destn fee of $750 ...is it worth it or can i get a better deal? ...the msrp is $21155 and the invoice is $19540 ...what would be a good deal at this point? Was considering waiting for the 2012 civic ...to get a cheaper 2011 one.
http://automobiles.honda.com/2012-civic/?SP_RID=MjI0OTM0NTI4NTcS1&SP_MID=3341225- &PROGRAMID=RPACVC12&CAMPAIGNCODE=AT2935&OFFERCODE=AT2935&CELLCODE=CX&PID=A186997- 52&FROM=EMAIL
Hi Grad. Hope you are well. We have all seen the Civic and I like the Coupe. The question is what are the drivetrains? I vote for 2.0 gasser in the sedan and an SI tune 2.4 in the Si coupe. 6 speed auto would be nice. We'll all have to wait 1 more generation for really interesting technology. .02.
My recommendation is watch your local Honda dealer lots - check them out every 2-3 days as the 2012 Civic launch gets closer (around March-April)... Once the 2012's arrive - dealers should have fire sales on the 2011s as a few should still be laying around. My partner just bought a 2010 Civic LX automatic sedan for 4300.00 off msrp (last day of November) as the 2011's were arriving. Anything less ... Read More
Hi all. I live in Baltimore, Maryland and I've been doing some shopping for a 2011 Honda Civic Sedan. I really want Electronic Stability Control. The problem is, only the most upscale version (EX-L) has it. So I'm trying to shop aggressively to find the best deal for an EX-L. I prefer to buy within the next week, although if I don't find a good deal I might just decide to ... Read More
Anyone knows what improvements are coming to the 2012 model? Will the car be quieter? (the cruze is extremely quiet). Will the ride be a little softer (it's way too firm to my tastes, making sure I feel every single bump or pothole firmly..) Also, will some features - now available in upper models only - finally come down to the mainstream trims? I bet that stability control will be standard ... Read More
The new 2012 Civic has been seen without much camoflauge. Let's discuss it here! -TheGraduate
While researching the Civics, I was disappointed to learn that the the Vehicle Stability Assist only comes on the highest level Civic EXL. They are pretty nonexistent at the dealers in my area (there are several because we have a Honda manufacturing plant 30 minutes away). I think this is because you can get a base model of the Accord for less than or the same price as a Civic EXL. ... Read More
The 2011 was supposed to be a redesign, but I heard it was pushed back to the 2012 model year. So as far as anyone *I* talked to knows, the cars will only have minor improvements for 2011. The later in the build cycle the more reliable, so a 2010 or 2011 would be about as good as it gets - and the new model will always be more problematic (even ... Read More
Hi, Thank you for all your inputs regarding about my question, so far the lowest quote I have gotten is $17,800 OTD with 1.9% interest rate about 5 weeks ago, and I am not sure if this quote is still good with the new 0.9% interest rate. Also does any knows if the 2011 Civic Sedan will be a new body style or just a carry over of the 2010 Civic? ... Read More
2) Actually, the next generation of the Honda Civic has been delayed one more year with a release date sometime in 2011 as a 2012 model year. The reasoning seems to differ from article to article, with writers claiming that the designers were displeased with everything from the growing length of the car and that it had to be resized to disappointing fuel economy numbers to simply taking another year to ... Read More
"The 2011 Honda Civic should return essentially unchanged from 2010 as Honda prepares to launch an all-new 2012 Honda Civic. This tabs the 2011 Civic as a lame duck navigating the compact-car waters with a design that dates to model-year 2006. Every key competitor is newer yet none surpasses Civic for engineering precision, refinement, and owner satisfaction. The 2011 Civic will repeat sedan and coupe body styles and again be available ... Read More
I dunno, now (under New cars section) it shows the Civic as a new design for 2012. So I think 2011 may be a carryover. I too, wish they would make ESC standard on all models, fairly inexcusable that they don't already. I would think it would make production easier too. But what do I know. Link here: http://www.edmunds.com/honda/civic/2012/index.html#search=open.eq..amp.p.eq.cveh- icledata%23%23-1%23%23-1%7E%7Enf12%7C%7C486f6e6461
If the 2011 model is a new design, I expect they'll have standard ESC. If it's a holdover, then I think Honda will wait for 2012.
Is it time for Honda to add ESC to all of the Civic models? Do you think it may happen with the 2011 models or do you think they will wait until 2012 when it becomes mandatory?
While at the Honda dealer last week, went over to the Kia store but they had no Forte's in stock. The SX model is what I'd be interested in eventually so was disappointed there were none to sit in and get the feel of it. Now I hear that the new Civic will be a 2012 model instead of a 2011 one. But that works for me as I'd be looking ... Read More
http://www.vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=828861 No new civic model for 2010 nor 2011...... "Civic As the current body style debuted in the 2006 model year, the Civic received its MMC last year. In other words, minimal changes are expected for 2010. For those who are counting on the Civic getting an FMC next year, think again. The Civic has generally been on a 5-year model cycle, which means the FMC (full model change) would normally ... Read More
dtolman: I believe 16480 OTD is a decent deal. Not sure what the tax rate is in IL. I agree that stability control should be at least an option on all models. I believe they have started to include it with Toyota Corollas. I honestly had not noticed it was not standard on LX up. That may seriously affect my buying decision. The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration mandates that all ... Read More
First 6% is a very big price increase for one year. I am doubtful the price increase on the 2009 Civic will actually be that much, because if so it is getting very close to the Accord in pricing. You heard that from a sales rep, right? By the end of the year, supply of the 2009s will be good and there will be competition for the Civic from Honda's own ... Read More
Since the 2009s will be arriving in the not too distant future, I thought maybe someone (like one of our resident Honda salespeople) had heard some details about which Civics get VSA for 2009 and which don't. It appears not. I need to buy a car (actually at least 2) before 2012.
Uh... yeah, I assumed Honda would keep VSA on the Si. I had read that VSA would be added to other Civic trims for 2009. I think it's going to be pure speculation as to what models will and will not have it. For certain all cars in the US will have stability control in 2012 as it will be mandatory.
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